New Law in France
Against 'Psychological Violence'
I shouldn't need to say much about the following. It speaks more than eloquently on its own account, and I am confident the ramifications will not be lost on my fine, intelligent, politically awakened readers:
http://tinyurl.com/ye4bhte
The only bright spot, if you wish to call it that, is that women and men are BOTH subject to arrest and prosecution under this enactment. But I certainly don't mean to imply that such "equality" makes the law any less unconscionable.
So, today France. . . and tomorrow. . . . a country near YOU?
What the hell is the world coming to? Fifty, forty, even thirty years ago, if you'd floated any such proposal, nearly anybody would have reckoned it was a dysfunctional jeu d'esprit—which, manifestly it is! Such a thing would very simply never have occurred to any right-thinking person. But today, politicians can not only propose such things, they can wave such things into law with absolute stone-cold self-assurance that NOBODY will summon the moral courage, political muscle or cultural voice to do anything about it! Yes, ideas that were culturally unthinkable years ago are both thinkable and discussable today because a slow, incremental buildup in the baseline of cultural acceptance has rotted our collective ability to either comprehend the crisis or to act resolutely against it. And so we sink helplessly, deeper and deeper into the rot.
And oh, bloody hell, I need scarcely remind you that our good friend feminism has been a mighty contributor to this . . . rot!
All right. Now that your brain has been correctly primed by all of the foregoing, you might benefit by visiting (or re-visiting) the following item—which will throw a pertaining backlight upon the subject of this post: http://tinyurl.com/np2k6r
http://tinyurl.com/ye4bhte
The only bright spot, if you wish to call it that, is that women and men are BOTH subject to arrest and prosecution under this enactment. But I certainly don't mean to imply that such "equality" makes the law any less unconscionable.
So, today France. . . and tomorrow. . . . a country near YOU?
What the hell is the world coming to? Fifty, forty, even thirty years ago, if you'd floated any such proposal, nearly anybody would have reckoned it was a dysfunctional jeu d'esprit—which, manifestly it is! Such a thing would very simply never have occurred to any right-thinking person. But today, politicians can not only propose such things, they can wave such things into law with absolute stone-cold self-assurance that NOBODY will summon the moral courage, political muscle or cultural voice to do anything about it! Yes, ideas that were culturally unthinkable years ago are both thinkable and discussable today because a slow, incremental buildup in the baseline of cultural acceptance has rotted our collective ability to either comprehend the crisis or to act resolutely against it. And so we sink helplessly, deeper and deeper into the rot.
And oh, bloody hell, I need scarcely remind you that our good friend feminism has been a mighty contributor to this . . . rot!
All right. Now that your brain has been correctly primed by all of the foregoing, you might benefit by visiting (or re-visiting) the following item—which will throw a pertaining backlight upon the subject of this post: http://tinyurl.com/np2k6r
posted by Fidelbogen at 8:21 PM
12 Comments:
It's scary isn't it? Not only is France a country "near me", but generally: Our societies are degenerating on all fronts at a speed it's shocking. I distinctly remember living in a better, more civilized and reasonable society during the late 70s and early 80s. So much for "progress". There is no progress in our societies anymore, except for the numb people who equal "progress" with twinkling gadgets.
Is what we're experiencing a controlled degeneration? Or how about this thought:
"Ultimately there is no boss. At the top of the pyramid sits the logic of the pyramid itself. And that logic is basically a big fire that consumes everything and finally burns out." - Ran Prieur (Dec 14)
Meanwhile:
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2010/01/india-to-pay-women-to-cry-rape.html
Any woman in India alleging rape will receive the equivalent of $200,000, which does not have to be paid back if she is found to have invented the allegation.
This was justified on the grounds that “women never lie about rape.”
I am not completely sure what the French Law will mean in the end but I think that we are already suffering a similar Law in Spain.
The Spanish Penal Code was modified in 2004 to include this type of “crime”. Articles 171 and 172 of this Code establish that “the man who in a light way menaces or coerces the woman who is or has been his wife or is or has been tied to her with a similar relationship, even not living with her, will be punished with a prison sentence of 6 months to 1 year or social works in the benefit of the community of 31 to 80 days.” (Sorry if the translation is not accurate enough but I am not a legal expert and my knowledge of English is limited).
The crime of menace includes, among other things, saying things to the other person “that can cause harm in her honour that will affect her peacefulness and security”. And I want to stress that even a minor (“in a light way”) menace is included in the articles of the Spanish Penal Code.
There are Spanish men who are sent to prison for six months if his wife files a suit accusing him of insulting her during an argument. On the contrary, if a woman is accused of the same thing it is only considered an offence and she can avoid a 4 day prison by paying a tiny amount of money.
And this Law was enacted in 2004 during the first year of socialist Mr. Zapatero in government.
Finally I would like to thank you for your posts and keep in mind that not only the US or the UK are suffering this feminist dictatorship of ideas.
(Juan from Spain)
i fart in your general direction
@anon:
"I fart in your general direction"
Eh. . that is ill-mannered. It would please you to take it outside. ;)
@JuanFromSpain:
Thank you for the report from Spain. Something tells me that the new law in France will be enforced with a similar double-standard.
Is there any standard of evidence applied by the Spanish courts in such cases? I mean, does the woman actually need to PROVE anything? And if so, how can she do this? Or is it enough simply for the woman to say "he spoke to me with sarcasm", and the man will be locked up for six months no questions asked?
Your mother was a hampster - and your father smelt of elderberries!
Kidding.
No need to publish this comment - I was just going to suggest how cool it would be if people could ask questions of you.
That is, give some "food for thought", to see what one of the sharper people against feminism has to say on various issues...
If you have read through my site, you can probably tell that I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer!
It would be helpful to people like me to hear input on some things from people like you.
I am going to suggest this to some other blog runners too...
P.S. I cannot remember where I read it - I was going to provide a link - but there was an article that suggested that women commit WAY more emotional violence than men.
The article claimed that men gravitate towards physical violence - while women gravitate towards emotional violence.
It was not an exceptional article - probably why I cannot find the link to it.
@ScareCrow:
Since you said "no need to publish" your comment. . I won't.
Anyway, you sound like you have a question or two, so, try the following if you wish:
fidelbogen@earthling.net
Fidelblogen, the average “procedure” in Spain is the following:
- A woman sues a man accusing him of a certain type of “violence against women”. It could be from hitting her to insulting her. This also includes psychological violence.
- Police comes to the house and takes the man to prison. He can be there for one or two days. The woman does not need to present evidence to send the man to prison. Her word is trusted as evidence.
- If this happens in the middle of a divorce, the man cannot come back again to his house. So the Spanish Law offers women an incentive to sue their husbands in order to kick him out of the house more quickly in a divorce. I don’t mean that every woman will resort to this; I think that ruthless women will take advantage of this. And this type of woman abounds (read the data offered by a Spanish Judge that is included in my last paragraph).
- After one or two months, a Judge will decide according to the evidence presented, if the man is guilty (or not) of the crime. Depending on the Judge (some are more feminist-biased because if he releases a real killer that eventually kills his wife or partner he –the Judge- will be publically scorned in the media), a man can be considered not guilty or sentenced to jail for a period that ranges from six months (minor crime) to two/three years (for example, if the man has hit his wife or partner). If the guilty sentence is below two years and it is the first one, the man can avoid prison. If not, he will be sent to jail.
Lately, there’s been a controversy in Spain when a Judge publically spoke up about what the Spanish Law is causing to some men that have been falsely accused of violence against women (for the ones that can understan Spanish, here’s one useful link: http://www.elmundo.es/2009/12/13/cronica/21496748.html). In this article he says that in 2008 90% of the reports made by women accusing a man of “violence against women” were shelved by the Judge or ended up in a non guilty sentence. With these data he concludes that the majority of the women reports are false and none of them were prosecuted for doing this. Of course, Spanish feminists accused him of being a “defender of men who kill women” but they never refuted their data. Sorry, they said that if the cases where shelved or ended up in a non guilty sentence was because it was impossible to prove the violence, not because men were falsely accused. You can read about this here: http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/12/23/espana/1261575761.html).
(Juan from Spain)
Sorry Fidelblogen, here's Juan from Spain again. I forgot to include some Spanish blogs or webs that are speaking up about this issue (apart from the two that you already have):
http://www.absurdistan.eu/ (for me this is the best, but his posts are very few).
http://plutarco-cosasdesexo.blogspot.com/
http://www.buenamente.blogspot.com/
http://www.femilistas.com/
http://violencia-genero.com/
http://blogs.que.es/18247/posts
Unfortunatelly, all of them are in Spanish. But I think that they show the growing concern about these issues in Spain owing to the enactment of our own VAWA in 2004.
Thanks again.
@JuanFromSpain:
I thank you for the passel of links. And I can get along pretty well in Spanish thanks to my knowledge of French, which is so similar. (toro/taureau, aunque/autant que, sin/sans, hombre/homme, gente/gens, mano/main, vaca/vache, vino/vin, blanco/blanche, etc...:)
Anyway: the "procedure" which you describe sounds like nearly a carbon copy of what is done in the USA! So this is looking like a global conspiracy. Or if it is not an actual conspiracy, it is something that mimics the externalities of a conspiracy very cleverly! ;)
The name Zapatero makes me think of Zapata (of Mexico)!
But here is a question I cannot resist asking: By any chance is FRANCO starting to look possibly 'not so bad', compared to what is presently developing in Spain? ;)
Anonymous said...
Fidelblogen, the
- Police comes to the house and takes the man to prison. He can be there for one or two days. The woman does not need to present evidence to send the man to prison. Her word is trusted as evidence.
6:34 AM
Sounds like Tennessee; a woman's state. Here a woman's word is considered as both infallable and as gold. Women and girls can speak to and treat a man or boy in any manner they desire and the man and/or boy must tolerate it or be locked up. Women don't need to present any evidence. I work in a hotel and have had many men who were victims of domestic violence come to get a room because the police ordered them to leave their homes. He's the victim yet, she is not arrested and is allowed to remain in his house he has bought and paid for.
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